Snow Camp

This webpage is being updated from the 2014 trip to the 2015 trip as we get new info, but most of it will be the same.

(First photo below courtesy of the park service.)

Because we are in a campground with heated restrooms, showers nearby, restaurants to bail to if cooking out doesn't work, and 24 hour in-the-park ambulance service, this isn't a true wilderness adventure.

But we have had someone on almost every trip who has never been in the snow or never been camping before (or even both),

so for them it meets all definitions of an adventure.

The new friends in these group photos at the end of previous winter Yosemite trips were mostly strangers when the trip started.

There is a bigger copy of the 2004 group photo at:

Yosemite winter 2004 camping trip

2005: February 2005 Yosemite camping

2006: De Anza College Outdoor Club Yosemite winter trip 2006

Oops, no group photo: De Anza Outdoor Club Yosemite snow camp 2008

2009: De Anza winter Yosemite trip 2009

2010: De Anza Outdoor Club Yosemite winter trip 2010

2011: De Anza College Outdoor Club winter Yosemite trip 2011

2014: 2014 Yosemite winter trip

Who's going? / How Much?

We have had small and large groups (as many as 30 or 40 IF people sign up early and spread the word).

We always have return campers with experience on the trip and often have people who have never been camping and/or have never been in the snow.

Every year hordes of people say they are going but do not sign up.

You don't have to be a club member to go camping with us, just a De Anza student (or most faculty/staff), but members pay less for club events. Membership is $15 or $30 for 365 days. ($15 if you already have all the camping equipment you need, $30 if you want to rent a bunch of gear for club trips from us.) Reasons why you should become a member are at: Membership benefits

The price for the 2015 trip will be the same as 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 since our costs did not go up, as little as $10 if you are a club member and carpool in a large carpool. (Subtract three dollars if you sign up fall quarter.) Go to Outdoor Club Coming Attractions for the whole cost breakdown including the price for people driving by themselves or in small carpools.

How to do it info:

For a list of required equipment (and another list of the things you might really wish you had) as well as menu advice, and a discussion of what to look for in long-johns, fabrics and rain gear, go to: Snow or rain camp must-haves To go on our trip you must read the must haves list and follow it. On a budget? We do shopping surveys and list the cheapest places to buy the needed gear, often at half the price of higher priced camping gear stores, as well as rentals of snow boots/jackets/pants and sleeping bags.

How many people can you fit in an eight person tent?

For info on the logistics of where to pitch your tent, dealing with iced car door locks, staying warm and comfy overnight and more, go to: First-timer's instructions.

We could have 1 1/2 foot deep snow in the campground or very-early-spring type weather with only a little snow on the ground. We could have to deal with the Mono winds. You might encounter hazards on trails. It might snow or rain while we are there, or the sky could be clear of clouds and we can see the Milky Way. To go on this trip you must read: Snow camp weather, hike safety and first aid considerations

What is there to do on this trip?

On Saturday, some people on this trip will take the free bus to the ski resort to snowboard, ski or snowshoe. (In 2014 the weather bought the skiers fresh powder that morning.) They offer snowboard or ski (downhill or cross-country) lessons/rentals at the resort and a Ranger guided snowshoe walk. Most years, depending on snow pack on the trails, usually more people will do a major hike, like the one to the top of or the base of upper Yosemite Falls. (There's a different free bus to the trailhead.) Others will do a few short hikes or a Ranger nature or history walk, photo walk with a professional photographer or go ice skating. (Free bus to those places, too.) Some will try to fit in working on a term paper on a laptop.

Yosemite Falls Hike

Below is a Park Service photo of upper Yosemite Falls with the winter snow cone at its base. The potential Saturday hike, if the trail is clear enough, can get us quite close for photos.

The hike part way, to an overlook at Columbia Rock, is 2 miles round trip with a 1,000 foot elevation gain and is often quite clear of snow. The hike to the top is 7.2 miles round trip with a 2,700 foot elevation gain. You can hike any distance you choose, as long as you stay with a group.

The section of the upper Yosemite Falls trail near the top, as shown below, has a lot of snow some years, which is part of the reason we expect people to hike in groups of four or more if they go above the valley floor. That way if someone gets into trouble, there is someone to stay with them while two others go back for help. The Park Service has reported about people who went off trail on the Yosemite falls hike, went to an unsafe area and died. Did you read Snow camp weather, hike safety and first aid considerations?

More pictures of this hike are at Upper Yosemite Fall hike.

Ski, Snowboard

There are nearly 350 miles of cross-country skiable trails and roads in Yosemite including 25 miles of machine groomed track and 90 miles of marked trails (no fee) that begin at Badger Pass. Very near Badger Pass there are some relatively short trails to scenic points and some nearly level machine groomed track for beginners. The road to Glacier Point is groomed for cross country skiing in the winter. The mileages from Badger Pass are:

Summit Meadow, 1 mi. (There is usually an operational outhouse there.)

Bridalveil Campground, 2.8 mi.

Bridalveil Creek, 3.3 mi.

Ostrander Trailhead, 4.1-4.5 mi.

Clark Range View, 5.7 mi.

Sentinel Dome, 9.2 mi.

Glacier Point, 10.5 mi.

Only very experienced skiers should attempt the route to Glacier Point.

Signed winter trails (no fee) are also available at Crane Flat, in the backcountry and among the Giant Sequoias of the Mariposa Grove.

Brochures (including maps) of cross country ski and snowshoe winter trails are available as PDF files: (200-500 kb in size).

Badger Pass and along the Glacier Point Road http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/upload/badger-winter.pdf

Mariposa Grove of Giant Sequoias http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/upload/mgrove-winter.pdf

Crane Flat area http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/upload/cflat-winter.pdf

Links to Badger pass downhill and cross-country skiing, snowboarding and tubing start at:

http://www.yosemitepark.com/BadgerPass.aspx

The two terrain parks have boxes, rails, rollers and big-air jumps.

Lift tickets for 2014-15:

Adult (over 17) all day $48.50, half day $40

Senior (65 and older) all day $43, half day $35 (free midweek non-holiday)

one ride ticket $11

From the website: "Veterans and active duty military personnel receive a free lift ticket, free equipment rental and group lesson . . . Immediate family members also recieve 50% off . . .... present your military ID at the badger pass activities desk." http://www.yosemitepark.com/badger-military-discount.aspx

Lifts operate from 9am to 4pm (Half-Day is noon to 4pm)

http://www.yosemitepark.com/BadgerPass_RentalPricing.aspx

Call 1 (209) 372-1000 for ski conditions.

Guaranteed learn to ski/snowboard lessons with rentals $95.

Sunday, Feb. 8, 2015, after we pack up the campsites, some people will go to brunch and some may take advantage of a free lift ticket plus half off rentals or a half off group ski lesson to anyone with a valid college student photo ID. (But most of our group goes to brunch on Sunday after we pack up the campsite.)

http://www.yosemitepark.com/Badger-Student-Discounts.aspx

If you want to rent downhill or snowboard gear you might want to rent it at the Yosemite resort. If you rent gear at home before the trip it could be a waste of money if a storm closes the road to the resort, shuts down power to the ski lifts, closes the resort completely or you decide that the all day hike that day would be more fun.

Snowshoe walk with a Ranger

Conditions permitting, the rangers offer a cheap (suggested $5 donation for snowshoe use) daily snowshoe walk (moderate to strenuous) with a Ranger naturalist which meets at the Badger Pass Ranger office A-frame. As of 2013-14 it was scheduled from 10:30 to 12:30. (Please don't confuse this with the snowshoe walk sometimes offered by the Yosemite concessioneer, at a higher price, with signups in advance required.)

(Photos below by Monica Colmenares and Richard Neimrec.)

Free bus to skiing, snowboarding, snowshoeing

Road and weather conditions permitting, the free bus to the ski resort for the snowshoeing, skiing and snowboarding leaves Curry Village (two blocks from the campground) at (2013-14) 8 a.m. and 10:30 a.m. (and makes stops at various hotels: Yosemite Village 8:10 and 10:40, Ahwahnee 8:15 and 10:45, Yosemite Lodge 8:30 and 11) arrives at Badger pass approx. 9:30 and 12:05 and returns from the ski resort at 2 and 4 p.m. arriving at Curry Village (again about two blocks from the campground) approx. at 3 and 5 p.m.. Confirm the return times when you get there. Allow at least one hour from the last pickup stop to get to Badger Pass; one hour for the return to Curry.

In Yosemite Valley

A free shuttle bus (a different one than the ski/snowshoe walk bus) goes to 17 stops (to stores, restaurants, visitor center, trailheads) in the valley in the winter (2013-14) from 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. (but check the timetable at each stop) at 10 to 20 to maybe 30 minute intervals. The route, stops and how to find the store, shower house, etc. are at: Yosemite Valley free shuttle bus

Visitor Center and bookstore 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. The film Spirit of Yosemite plays in the theater behind the main building. (early 2014 - Mon.- Sat. 9:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. and Sunday noon to 4:30.) This is a great visitor orientation film with some swooping aerial views along with history and scenes from all seasons and all parts of the park. Free.

The Yosemite Museum, next to the main valley visitor center is usually open (early 2014) 9 a.m. to 5 p.m., may close for lunch.

Ice skating info is at:

http://www.yosemitepark.com/activities_winteractivities_iceskating.aspx

(1(209)372-8341) Usually more sessions on Saturday, Sunday and holidays than on weekdays. (Free helmet upon request.)

photo below by who?

The Ansel Adams gallery has free photo walks with a professional photographer, weather permitting, at 9 a.m. for 1 1/2 hours Saturdays (2014). Both digital and traditional formats welcome. Usually limited to 12 or 15 people. Sign up in advance at the gallery, or sometimes they accept phone reservations, but often they do not take reservations until three or four days in advance. Check with them for the current details. 209 372-4413.

see also: Yosemite winter photos

There are more than 12 miles of surfaced bike paths on the valley floor and the weather is sometimes good enough to ride or rollerblade. A map of bike paths is at: http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/biking.htm

When we get early spring weather instead of snowy winter, the bike rental stands are sometimes open.

Listen to the snow fall, listen to coyotes sing, make snow angels...

Yosemite Today / Yosemite Guide newspaper has lots of safety info, a calendar of park activities including Ranger walks, and hours of operation for visitor centers and museums.

Early 2014 these ranger walks met at 2 p.m. for 1 1/2 hours:

Friday: Wild About Wildlife, meet in front of the main visitor center

Saturday: Ahwahneechee games and stories, meet in front of the main visitor center

Sunday: Bears (bear sightings are highly unlikely) meet at shuttle stop 6

Evening programs 7 to 8 p.m. Saturday and Sunday (check local postings for topic and location)

The Yosemite Guide newspaper has hours of operation for tours, stores (early 2014 from 8 a.m. to 7 or 8 p.m.), food service (early 2014 from 7 a.m. to 7:30 or 8 p.m.), post office, laundromat (early 2014, 8 a.m. to 10 p.m. at Housekeeping Camp), showers (early 2014, 24 hours at Curry Village), auto service, gas stations (no gas stations in Yosemite valley, fill up before you come into the park, or drive 30 minutes to Crane Flat and hope the self-service pumps are in order) and more.

Online at: http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/guide.htm

Evenings are spent playing guitar and gossiping around the campfire, playing charades and board games, working on a term paper, skating at the ice rink, if there is enough snow finishing an igloo and sometimes taking night hikes. If it's slippery footing on a night hike, and it probably will be, people often night hike arm-in-arm in groups of four or five.

If it is not cloudy we can see a lot more stars than at home. For the 2015 trip there will be a waning gibbous moon, 93% to 80%, rising Saturday evening at 9:16 (sunset 5:33 and end of civil twilight 6 p.m.), which means if the sky is clear of weather we could have great stargazing.

(first four photos below by Colin Underwood.)

This girl was caught studying in the restroom at 5 a.m. on one of our Yosemite winter trips. Why in the restroom? Because it's heated in the winter and you can save on flashlight batteries. At 5 a.m. it's quiet except for the coyotes she heard howling in the distance. Lots of people study on our trips, bringing homework, projects and even laptops. Some study in cars on the way to and from the trip. This might not be as effective as studying at home, but you've got to get away and have fun sometime!

Sunday after we pack up many people get cleaned up and go to the Sunday brunch at the Ahwahnee hotel: Outdoor Club winter campers at brunch You will need nice clothes for this. At least Friday casual, but some ladies in our group get quite dressed up.

(There is a shower house a short walk (or one bus stop away on the free bus system) from the campground. And in the winter they usually don't have anyone at the door asking for money.)

What if it storms so much they close the road to the ski resort? We won't be able to ski, go on the ranger snowshoe walk or take one of the long hikes.

Will there be anything to do except hide in the car, play cards at the laundromat or go online at Degnan's Deli (for a fee)?

The answers are at: Things to do during a Yosemite snow storm besides hiding in your tent

Getting there:

The club can't arrange rides, but people going on our Yosemite road trip have various options of how to get there. For ideas, driving directions and a few pictures of what you will see along the way go to: Snow camp carpools and driving directions

Prepare for winter driving has a link to bad weather driving tips, tips for using tire chains, tricks for dealing with frozen car locks, how to prepare your vehicle for winter driving, how to de-fog the windows, a winter survival kit for your car and what to do if you get stranded. Don't have chains? Try: Snow chain rentals

Safe driving in rain and fog

For the answer to the question: How do I convince my parent(s)/guardian that I can go on this trip? or How do I convince them to pay for some gear for the trip? Go to: Snow camp FAQs

Road trip advice and etiquette could make the drive more fun.

How can I sign up for this trip?

The Outdoor Club has a good reputation with Risk Management and they let us do adventurous trips like this one as a result. The club wants to keep that reputation and wants the trip to be safe and fun. You will need to read most of the links from this page about safety and take a written test before you can sign up for the trip. Sample test questions and a few of the answers are at: Snow camp pre-test sample questions

We got tired of people who brought useless rain gear on previous trips. We had to dress them in plastic leaf bags:

So you will need to show us your rain gear when you sign up for this trip. We will not accept a rain poncho. We will not accept thin, easily torn temporary rain gear like they sell at airports for emergencies. Go to: Snow or rain camp must-haves for details and ideas for people on a budget.

You'll need to fill out and sign a release for each Outdoor Club off campus event you sign up for; you can print one in advance at release form.

Club members can rent club-owned equipment for trips Membership is $15 for 365 days, or if you want cheap rentals, $30. Reasons why you should become a member are at: Membership benefits

Equipment rentals will go much more smoothly if you have read the Outdoor Club Sample Rental Agreement

LAST CHANCE TO SIGN UP FOR THE 2015 YOSEMITE TRIP...

At the east end of the Stelling parking structure at the pre-trip meeting/equipment rentals and world's ugliest long-johns contest, Friday, Jan. 30, 5 p.m. to 7 or 8 p.m.

But we suggest getting signed up earlier.

How/when/where to find us to sign up is at: Outdoor Club Coming Attractions

When camping with a large group of people some complain there is not enough room in their shared bear box for all their food.

More things could fit in the campite bear-proof storage lockers if everyone brought smaller containers of food, etc.

NO!→ ← Yes!!

and if everyone brought their gear in small, deep plastic trash cans or other plastic boxes close to, but no more than, 17 inches tall. A typical bedroom waste receptacle could be 9" by 12" by 17" deep and hold quite a few cans of food, cooking items and toiletry bags. If you've never shared bear boxes with a big group, read

Using a campsite food storage locker

Yikes! Does this trip info have too many webpages? Can't remember where the info you need is? Go to: Yosemite trips index

Below, a NPS photo of Half Dome cloaked in snow on Jan. 5, 2005, and a picture taken near our campground at sunset by Mike Rivers and another with alpenglow January 2011:

Summer of 2012 some visitors to Curry Village in Yosemite contracted hantavirus pulmonary syndrome and some of them died. According to the park service, "Since HPS was first identified in 1993, there have been approximately 60 cases in California residents and 602 cases nationally. Nationwide, approximately 12 percent of deer mice carry hantavirus." And deer mice live in every state.

Hantavirus frequently asked questions are at: https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/hantavirus.htm

Advice there includes not sleeping on the bare ground, but instead in a tent, and keeping all food, even items in the bear boxes, in tightly sealed containers.

In the NPS photo of flooded Sentinel Meadow taken May 16, 2005, you can just make out the sunken edge of the boardwalk across the meadow between the two posts on the fence and can just see Yosemite Falls thru the low clouds in the background. Next to it is the same place in June, 2005 and again in February 2008

see: Yosemite Falls view in February snow and other seasons

Yosemite webcams brought to you by the Yosemite Conservancy, a non-profit park support group:

http://www.yosemiteconservancy.org/webcams-videos

For a laugh, and to help insure you won't become an entry on the page, read Camping Blunders

There's easy camping info at: Have more fun camping

The entire text of The Yosemite by John Muir is at: http://www.abovecalifornia.com/lib/JohnMuir

Favorite chapters for winter trip reading include:

Winter Storms and Spring Floods

Snow-storms

Snow Banners

Yosemite Valley is an attempt to show the dramatic scale of the depth and width of the valley through pictures of Yosemite Falls.

How much water will there be in the Yosemite waterfalls?

Yosemite nature podcasts: http://www.nps.gov/yose/photosmultimedia/ynn.htm

episode #5 is snow, #2 is Yosemite Falls

see also Winter Moments

photos below by Quang-Tuan Luong/terragalleria.com, all rights reserved.

Yosemite nature and photography links has links to photo tips, geology, birding and wildflowers (well, okay, no wildflowers in the winter, but...) info.

Yosemite trips index

Answers to most questions about how the De Anza Outdoor club works are at: Outdoor Club Basic Info The main rules common to most of our trips, including who is eligible to go, are at: Outdoor Club trip rules.

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two photos below by Quang-Tuan Luong/terragalleria.com, all rights reserved.

Valley View (seen on the way out of Yosemite Valley) panorama spring and winter: