Carpool FAQs

The De Anza College Outdoor Club doesn’t provide rides, and the club and the college are not responsible for getting people to and from events, or for arranging a ride for anybody. This is because the college could be held responsible if someone had an accident.

Renting a bus for a large group has never worked out, because the cost turns out to be too high,
and people have too many different schedules.

I don’t have a car… OR … my vehicle barely makes it to school and back, how can I get to the trip?

you have a few choices:

1) Talk Mom and or Dad into loaning you the family van / SUV. Wow, will you be popular!
(Be sure you can get the van before you promise rides to people!!!)

2) Talk a friend who can drive into going on the trip.

3) Rent a car.

Experience shows that people who are thinking about going on a trip and don’t sign up until the last minute are less likely to find a ride than people who are actually signed up, or at least have made a commitment to go.

It could be that people who have made the commitment to go on a trip are more motivated.
They read all the details about a trip, become experts and can tell friends all about the trip.

They attend pre-trip Zoom or in person meetings and it turns out that someone they know is going and can drive.

Making plans in advance is best, but also:

4) People signed up for the trip can exchange phone numbers and put carpools together.

When people sign up for trips there is a space on the form to say whether or not they will drive or need a ride and whether their email/phone number can be given to other people on the trip. Someone with motivation (they need a ride) or spare time then can call people and try to make arrangements. By having larger carpools everyone can save money on gas and any park entrance fees.

5) For some trips we have a mandatory pre-trip meeting. People without rides (and/or overnight accommodations) at that point can get together after the meeting to try to make ride arrangements.

Below: a rental car on a Grand Tetons trip with kayaks loaded on top and the stuffed Bullwinkle-the-moose trip mascot. Bullwinkle driving on the 2007 trip, ladies happy to be leaving Nevada / entering Idaho, and Bullwinkle driving again on the 2008 trip.

rental car with kayaks loaded on top: bullwinkle and idaho sign 2007: Phung, Kelly and Christina at Idaho border: three smiling grinning ladies with Idaho sign in background

bullwinkle Idaho sign 2008: welcome to Idaho and college gear hauler trailer: Along a highway, a welcome to Idaho sign, and the De Anza College gear hauler trailer towed by a car with a canoe on top big clouds and welcome to idaho sign

welcome to idaho sign 2010 late at night.: photo taken after dark, vehicle lights in foreground, Welcome to Idaho sign in background

 

How many vehicles and how many people in each vehicle?

It is wise to have more drivers / vehicles than it seems as though the group initially needs. There are often late signups who need a ride.
Backup vehicles & drivers may be needed at the last moment. (Parents sometimes change their minds and decide to not loan the family van / SUV after all. A vehicle can have unexpected engine trouble.)

On a camping trip, especially on our winter trip or the long distance trip to Grand Teton National Park, you’ll be bringing a lot of gear, so 4 people should be the limit in a 5-passenger SUV, 3 people should ride in a sedan that seats four, and some cars really should only have 2 people. You will have more fun if you can bring enough ice chests, a large backpack for all-day-long hikes that has room for your raingear, warm layers to put on and off, cameras, 2 or 3 lunches, etc. (instead of a small day pack). If you camp you will need not only your stove, cooking gear, tent and sleeping bag, but also at least 2 insulating sleeping pads per person.

You really do not want to drive 1,000 plus miles to Grand Teton National park with gear on each person’s lap.

De Anza wants you to have insurance, properly functioning seatbelts for all passengers, and not so much gear in the car that it blocks your view out the back window.

What if there isn’t room for all the gear?

Rethink well in advance that you can stuff so many people and all their gear in the vehicle. If someone you might give a ride to can drive, they should be encouraged to do so, to make more room for people, or as a last minute back-up.

Sometimes people rent a small enclosed trailer or borrow a cartop carrier.

Sometimes a car teams up with a truck. Then the car can seat more people because the truck can fit their gear. (Be sure anything in the back of a truck is packed in waterproof plastic in case of rain.) Don’t leave a truck unattended with all those tempting bags in it.

If you stop at a hotel overnight on the way to Grand Teton National park, all the gear in the truck bed or on a not-completely-lockable cartop carrier needs to go into the hotel room. People have had bikes stolen even though the bikes were padlocked and cabled / chained to the bike rack.

When you arrive in a park like Yosemite, especially after dark, make getting all food and toiletries out of the truck bed into a food locker a first priority and leave someone in the back of the truck until that is done. (Raccoons move quickly and have gotten into trucks and into gear when people ignored this advice.)

The people in a truck / sedan combo can divide park entrance fees and gas by arrangement in advance. (If the truck seats three, but the car can seat six with their gear in the truck, it would be fair for the people in the car to pay part of the trip costs for the truck.)

 

When will carpools leave?

This is frequently not completely decided until near the date of the trip.

On a typical weekend trip, like a winter Yosemite trip, for example, cars left the Bay area at 5:30 a.m., 8 a.m., 9 a.m., noon, 1:30, 2:30 and 5 p.m. People got rides depending on when they had classes or work. Some carpools left at the same time from the same place so they could caravan together and watch out for each other. Plus, it can be fun to trade around passengers as you go and get to know new people.

Most people return on the Sunday afternoon of a weekend trip, but some may stay until very late in the day. Sometimes people need to get to work and leave quite early on the Sunday. Some leave their return time open until that day. There is often no way to predict until near the trip date or on the trip. If you are getting a ride and have a must-return time, be certain to tell your driver well in advance.

As for out of state road trips like the Grand Teton National Park trip, it can be quite different. Well before a trip, the various people who say they really want to go are not sure how long of a trip they will make it into. Some will go for under a week, some may decide that as long as they are going that far, they want to make a three week long adventure out of it. Decisions are often made quite near the trip date.

(Form your carpools off campus. Spare cars that are left parked on campus over a weekend have been trashed!)

 

How can people still be friends after sharing a ride on a trip?

people in van at Tuolumne:

the answer, along with ways to keep from being bored on a long road trip, is at:

Road trip advice and etiquette , which has practical advice from experienced and newbie carpoolers on cross-country road trips, including ways to keep from being so bored; planning before the trip; safety issues; drowsy driving; packing; road trip games, storytelling, debates and discussions; links to gas price watch sites, and how to deal with windows that are fogging up faster than your navigator can wipe it off and this advice:

When it is really windy outside, if everybody opens their doors at once, or even if more than one door or one door and the hatchback is opened, everything inside will blow around and even out of the vehicle and you could be chasing stuff for miles.

You will be so much happier if you actually read the advice and etiquette page and plan ahead!

You do not have to feel sorry for people who do not try to make plans for a ride, but just expect they will be given a ride.
This really happened:
A guy didn’t make arrangements for a ride, he just showed up when carpools met to leave and figured there would be room for him (oh, and he had a bike he wanted to bring and a bunch of food that needed refrigeration, and he figured someone would have room for it in their ice chest). – – –
You might guess he did not get a ride to go on the trip.
See more at Camping Blunders

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sign no trespass, rr tracks, shopping cart.: bent sign keep right:

 

 
For road trips, we advise people to check everything that
powers,
stops,
cools,
heats,
ventilates
and lights their vehicle
well before they leave on an adventure.

Road trip vehicle prep and recommended service has checklists and things people can do without a mechanic.

 
Drivers and passengers might also want to read
How to not collide with a deer,
Safe driving in rain and fog,
Prepare for winter driving,
wildlife jams,

 

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park ranger talks to driver
Top reasons not to speed in a National Park has defensive driving advice.

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You can find the instructions to turn off the loud beep your car makes when you use the keyless ‘remote’ pushbutton on your keychain to unlock the car. Then you won’t forget about it and wake up everyone in nearby campsites / cabins in the middle of the night. If you can’t disable it, take the remote off your keychain and put the remote away somewhere and use the key to unlock the vehicle during the trip.

If your trunk beeeeps when you open it you need to take it to the dealer to get it silenced, or figure out how to silence it yourself, or not drive that vehicle, or park it away from the campsite / at the very back of a lodging parking lot.

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Every vehicle on a winter trip (or sometimes even spring / fall) to Yosemite must have chains, often even for four-wheel drive vehicles with snow tires. The park requires you at least carry chains for a lot of the fall/winter/spring, even if there is no snow currently on the ground. Big fines apply to people who ignore this, and they might check for chains as you try to enter the park, and not let you in without them.

Therefore it is not a great idea to rent a car for our winter Yosemite trips, since most car rental companies do not let people put snow chains of their vehicles.

For the between-summer-and-fall-quarter trip to Wyoming and Grand Teton National park, most people bring their chains just in case.

tire chains and cables NPS photos: two tires, one with chains and one with cables, NPS photos

At the snow chain rentals page you will read that snow chains do not fit on some vehicles.

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Transporting a single kayak? Read loading a kayak on a car .

Please note that if you fly into Grand Teton park for our trip there and rent a vehicle, the rentals companies will not let you put a canoe on top of their vehicles.

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herd of elk, bull with head raised to bugle

The Grand Teton National park between-summer-and-fall-quarter trip has a trip transportation page with route advice that can save you hours of driving and includes notes about 87 versus 85 octane.

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See details about (day-use parking) parking in Yosemite without an overnight accommodation and the sometimes designated overnight parking available at overnight accommodations Parking and Traffic Jams in Yosemite Valley Tips and Tricks.

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For details about De Anza Outdoor Club events and on how to find us to pay for a membership, sign up for events or volunteer, go to:

Outdoor Club Coming Attractions