Grand Tetons trip transportation

For the De Anza College trips to the Grand Tetons, our trip can start and end when people traveling together mutually want it to. The official days of each trip will be posted at: Grand Tetons

We could not find any bus or train line that serves Jackson Hole. But
http://www.mountianstatesexpress.com can take you from the Salt Lake airport to Jackson.

Grand Teton and Yellowstone driving distances

Idaho Falls- Jackson 86 miles

Jackson – Gros Ventre river 7 miles

Gros Ventre river – Moose 6 miles

Moose – Moran 18 miles

Moran -Jackson Lake junction 4 miles

Moose – Jenny 10 miles

Jenny – Jackson Lake Junction 11 miles

Jackson Lake Junction – Colter Bay 10 miles

Colter Bay – West Thumb Yellowstone 39 miles

Moran – West Thumb Yellowstone 48 miles

Moran – Old Faithful Yellowstone 66 miles

West Thumb Yellowstone – Madison Junction 33 miles

Madison Junction Yellowstone – Norris Junction 13 miles

Norris Junction Yellowstone – Canyon Junction 12 miles

Canyon Junction Yellowstone – Lake Junction ( fishing bridge) 15 miles

Lake Junction ( fishing bridge) – West Thumb Yellowstone 20 miles

Old Faithful Yellowstone – Boseman, Montana 119 miles

Old Faithful Yellowstone – Cody, Wyoming 116 miles

Old Faithful Yellowstone – Idaho Falls 138 miles

NO CAR ON OUR TRIP?

During our trip, if your driver has plans for the day that you don’t want to participate in, or if you arrive by plane before the main group, or if your driver stayed up late and slept in all morning, there is plenty to do at or from Colter Bay without access to your own vehicle. See below at NO CAR ON OUR TRIP?

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bullwinkle Idaho sign 2008: welcome to Idaho and college gear hauler trailer: Along a highway, a welcome to Idaho sign, and the De Anza College gear hauler trailer towed by a car with a canoe on top

DRIVE

Carpools are arranged among the students going on the trips, not by the club or the college. Carpool FAQs

The drive from Silicon Valley to the Tetons, as estimated from AAA tour maps, going through Reno, and across Nevada, is about 21 hours without many stops or heavy traffic. In 2002 it took one van 31 hours with lots of stops. In 2009 one guy said it was a 17 hour drive and he swears he didn’t speed.

We advise people who intend to drive straight through to leave town in the afternoon or evening to be able to drive across the desert at night. A Tetons road trip veteran advises:

“add the Great Salt Lake to that, too. That was one of the absolute worst hours of the drive. The sun was scorching; there was absolutely nothing out there but salt to look at; and, as far as I recall, there were absolutely no overpasses,underpasses, trees, or buildings to stop in for shade; it was horrible. I guess it took only about an hour or two to drive through there, but I just remember it as being torture.”

(The Salt Lake route is longer than the southern Idaho route, but if you have relatives who will let you camp in their backyard as students on a previous trip had …)
Whoa, does this make you think you can’t endure a road trip across the US desert? Will you die of boredom? Go to:

Road trip advice and etiquette for ways to save your sanity and save friendships on a long expedition, including decisions to make before the trip, packing advice and more from previous road trip members that could make the long drive more tolerable.

Grand Tetons trip cost includes mileage and gas costs estimates.

These sites try to keep up on gas prices across the country:

http://www.gasbuddy.com

http://www.gaspricewatch.com/new/

If you rent a vehicle, try to get the typical AAA rate with unlimited mileage. Remember that most rental agencies will not let you tow anything. Most rental agencies at the Jackson, Wyoming airport will not let you put a canoe or kayak on the vehicle.

The club and the College are not responsible in any way for your transportation on trips, but they expect that everyone will wear seatbelts and obey all traffic laws, drivers will have sufficient insurance, and vehicles will be in good repair. Please have the courtesy to let your driver/ passengers / the club advisor know of any changes to your ride needs or ability to drive.

2005 moose driving Jeep: welcome to Idaho 2010: sign that says Welcome to Idaho, with mass of clouds in background, trailer of kayaks in foregroundbullwinkle and idaho sign 2007:

A Wyoming law, (with fines of up to $200 and jail terms of up to 20 days, or both), requires that drivers slow to 20 mph under the posted speed limit when passing stopped emergency vehicles with flashing lights, unless directed otherwise by law enforcement.

The speed limit slows to 15 miles per hour within 100 feet of a park entrance station.

Highway(s) 191, 26/89, from Jackson into and through the park has a nighttime (30 minutes after sunset to 30 minutes before sunrise) speed limit of 45 m.p.h.

The faculty advisor advises that the drivers bring and use the club-owned family band radios, and cars in a caravan stay at all times in sight of each other. If you decide to drive to Wyoming straight through, remember that it doesn’t matter if you arrive later than expected, and each driver should get enough sleep.

welcome to idaho sign 2010 late at night.: photo taken after dark, vehicle lights in foreground, Welcome to Idaho sign in background

Can you pass the “Winnebago test”? It’s a test discovered by a friend of the Outdoor Club faculty advisor. If you are stuck on a winding mountain road behind a huge, slow moving motorhome and you realize they are not going to pull over and let the dozen plus cars behind them pass, will you wreck your vacation? The test is at: Road trip advice and etiquette . It has decisions to make before the trip, packing advice and more from previous road trip members that could make the long drive more tolerable.

If there is an emergency in the park call 911 from a pay phone or (307)739-3300 from a cell phone for park dispatch. (Please verify this phone number in the park newspaper when you get there.)

If you ride in a carpool driving straight through, pack a small bag with the items you will wish you had for 24 hours so that you don’t need to stop and go through your luggage looking for: your toothbrush/floss, flashlight, rain jacket, pillow, book, journal, camera, headphone CD player. Other people in the vehicle will appreciate it if you wear freshly laundered clothing without perfume or cologne and have recently washed yourself. There’s more on packing at, you guessed it: Road trip advice and etiquette .

Don’t exceed the speed limit. According to the FTC, “The faster you drive, the more fuel you use. For example, driving at 65 miles per hour (mph), rather than 55 mph, increases fuel consumption by 20 percent. Driving at 75 mph, rather than 65 mph, increases fuel consumption by another 25 percent…If you anticipate traffic conditions and don’t tailgate, you can avoid unnecessary braking and acceleration, and improve your fuel economy by 5 to 10 percent.”

In 2010, vehicles in Grand Teton park hit and killed two wolves, five bears, 6 pronghorn, 17 bison, five moose, 41 deer and 48 elk. Most of the deaths occured between dawn and dusk on the main highway between Moose and Moran Junctions. Please drive the speed limit and be prepared to stop suddenly. Speed was the biggest factor, especially at night when people “overdrive their high beams – when stopping distance is greater than the headlight illumination distance.”

“Motorists are reminded to drive the posted speed limit and to be prepared to stop suddenly for wildlife along or on park roadways. Driving slower than indicated speed limits, especially at night, can increase the margin of safety for people and wildlife. Collisions between motor vehicles and wildlife may result in severe damage to a vehicle, serious or fatal injuries to the wildlife.”

Driving slower than the posted speed limit, especially after dark, can save animal (and human) lives.

NPS photo of bison crossing road: ranger van on road and wrecked red pickup down side of road: ranger van with flashing lights on road and wrecked red pickup down side of road in bushes

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Driving notes for the Tetons trip. SAVE MONEY ON GAS AND TIME ON THE ROAD.

In parts of Idaho and Wyoming they sell 85 octane regular gas. You can get away with 85 octane at high altitude (6,000 plus, verify in your owners manual) because the thinner air is compressed less in the engine, but you would want 75 at lower altitudes. For most of the route to and from Jackson your car might want 87 instead so that your timing won’t be retarded by the engine computer. Use what your owners manual says and no lower. Make your last fill up in Jackson 87 unless you are certain you will use up all the 85 octane gas before you leave the Tetons (Jackson elevation 6,000 feet, Grand Teton park flats elevation 6,800 feet).

A major brand gas station right at a freeway exit in Lovelock had (in 2009/2012/etc.) gas at 33/28 cents a gallon more than the non-name brand station two blocks down a side street in town or the other major name brand station on the opposite side of the freeway exit.

Winnemucca exit 176 had a Flying J with (2012 $3.65) the Sinclair at the next exit had $3.75.

In Carlin the Pilot station posted their prices on a large overhead sign and the major name brand station next door didn’t even have fully readable ones at the pump, but they were at least ten to twenty cents a gallon higher. The Pilot station also had a Subway sandwich shop and lots of possibly needed fuses, bulbs, hose clamps, etc.

Wells: At the exit you will need for 93 north there’s a Love’s Travel Stop at the intersection of higway 93 and 80, with a 24 hour McDonalds. (Yes, that is cigarette smoke in the restaurant from the casino next door.) Fill up there and you can drive right past the much-higher-cost-every-year-we-have-had-the-trip stations in Jackpot.

Just out of Jackpot on the right there is a pullout with a Welcome To Idaho sign suitable for photo taking.
Below: the photos of rental cars with kayaks loaded on top and the stuffed Bullwinkle trip mascot are by Wendy Sato.

rental car with kayaks loaded on top: rental car and Bullwinkle by Wendy Sato:

It’s faster to go across southern Idaho than through Salt Lake.

Going from Nevada into southern Idaho, the gas in Jackpot has often been much higher priced than in Twin Falls, Idaho.

You can get through Twin Falls, Idaho without going through some downtown, but you can spend a great deal of time on slow side roads if you don’t watch out. Coming from Jackpot do not take the Twin Falls city center #74 exit. Continue along as the road widens to a four lane and take the exit that circles around down to town. In 2012/3/4 it followed Addison and turned on to Blue Lakes, then highway 93. If you are going through at all late in the day you will find even the fast food places closed. The gas stations in Twin Falls were (2009) 11 cents to 14 cents more (2010) 10 cents more than just outside of town (listed as in Jerome, Idaho, but at the freeway 84 entrance) Flying J station, which is open 24 hours and at night might be the only restrooms and food you can find. (Flying J mid-grade $3.84 Aug. 2014). But with a Maverick card to swip at the pump you might beat that price (Maverick 883 Blue Lakes Blvd. and Falls Avenue, open 24 hours.)

When you get to Idaho Falls do not take the first exit that says towards Grand Teton/Jackson, Wyoming, That exit forces you to drive for many narrow downtown blocks (especially not fun when towing a trailer). Instead, get a street map and take exit 119, following route 20 for a bit, go right on an exit to Science Center drive, which becomes Anderson as it crosses Holmes, then bear left onto Yellowstone Highway (route 26). You will save as much as a half hour, perhaps more, as the directional signs have been previously missing on the usually indicated route the city businesses would have you take from the freeway.

Going through Jackson, Wyoming into the park the main route takes you past the Town Square with a lot of slow traffic and pedestrians. It can be fun to take that route at least once, but the faster route is the one marked as a truck route. Get a street map from the club with the alternate route, as well as where to find the hardware store, Dairy Queen, Kmart, Outdoor Club favorite whole-food-type grocer, Visitor Center etc, marked on it.

Plan to fill your tank whenever you are in Jackson, as the cheapest gas stations are in town and the prices get higher the further you go into Grand Teton park. July 2010 in Jackson some as low as $2.82, in the park at Dornan’s in Moose $2.92, at Colter Bay $3, in Moran $3.30. August 2012, unleaded gas was $3.58 at the Mavericks in town (3 cents cheaper when you swipe their free card at the pump), $3.84 at Dornan’s, $3.94 at Signal Mountain, $4.03 at Jackson Lake Lodge and Colter Bay. July 2014 found the Mavericks with $3.75 for mid-grade 87 octane gas (2 cents cheaper with their free card) and the stations near Colter Bay and at Jackson Lake Lodge at $4.30. Sept. 2016 found the Maverik at $2.39.9, minus 2 cents with your Maverik card. At Colter Bay $2.48.9 and at Dornan’s at Moose, $2.59.9.

Groceries are also cheaper (and with a much more plentiful selection) in town, so most trip participants plan trips into town at least once a week. Grocery stops will take less time if you have planned ahead for what you want, especially if you want to stop at the Outdoor Club favorite grocery. Check it out in advance: http://www.jacksonwholegrocer.com/

The club owns some bear spray, but with a large group some people will need to buy their own. Bear spray in 2012 was $49.99 at the Grand Teton park visitor center, $39.99 at the Ace hardware in town. In July 2014 the Kmart had the lowest cost bear spray, on sale at $35 but it was $65 at a store in the park.

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kayak trailer and Wyoming sign 2013: in the foreground a kayak trailer and behind it a welcome to Wyoming sign

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Just before you leave, or along the way if you find online access, consult:

Jackson Hole weather

http://www.mountainweather.com/JACKSON.htm

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ifps/MapClick.php?MapType=3&site=RIW&CiTemplate=1&map.x=34&map.y=115

Tetons area road conditions (Wyoming Department of Transportation)

http://www.wyoroad.info/highway/conditions/Dist3.html

Grand Teton Park road construction (possible delays) is at:
http://www.nps.gov/grte/planyourvisit/roads.htm

FLY

Jackson Hole airport, located between the town of Jackson and the park, is served by Sky West / Delta (through Salt Lake City), United and American Airlines. Alaska Air only gets as close as Idaho Falls. If you look online for tickets, the airport code for San Jose is SJC and for Jackson it’s JAC.

Any recent prices for flights we know of are at Grand Tetons trip cost

We recommend that if you fly and rent a car, you head into town and get a spare door key made for convenience and so you can’t wreck part of your trip by locking yourself out of the car far away from the rental location. On the trip into town you can stock up at the huge grocery with a complete deli, bakery, made-to-order foods and lots of produce.

In 2004 trip participants got early cheap tickets to Salt Lake City, Utah, rented a tiny car and drove the remaining 6 hours.

In 2007 a guy who wanted to ride in a carpool one way and fly home at the end of the trip found that the round trip ticket was less than the one-way.

If you fly in and/or out and are not old enough to rent a car, you could make arrangements in advance to be picked up by a carpool. If you arrive at a time when carpools can’t get you, you can take an airport shuttle. See below at NO CAR ON OUR TRIP?

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If you fly or stuff a lot of people in a car, you will be limited in what you can bring. If we can transport the kayaks (we almost always can) we will also bring your lifejacket, paddle and dry bag(s). We usually also can find room for a dining canopy. The club and/or the drivers will not be responsible for the safety of items we transport for you.

NO CAR ON OUR TRIP?

During our trip, if your driver has plans for the day that you don’t want to participate in, or if you arrive by plane before the main group, or if your driver stayed up late and slept in all morning, there is plenty to do at or from Colter Bay without access to your own vehicle.

The airport shuttle requires reservations at least 24 hours in advance.
307-733-3135 http://jacksonholealltrans.com

A short walk from the cabins or campground, there are a restaurant and store as well as a Visitor Center with Ranger walks, talks and campfire programs.

TRAILS: At the north end of Colter Bay there is a 1.5 mile trail with a small causeway to an island. A self-guiding nature trail goes around the island. The trail starts behind the visitor center or at the day use area. Swan Lake is about a half mile from the cabins. From there you can take the Hermitage Point trail along Third creek, out to a peninsula on the lake and follow the shoreline of Jackson Lake back to the marina.

You can download a map of lakeside trails at:

http://www.nps.gov/grte/planyourvisit/upload/Lakeshore12.pdf

There is a fee or free (for guests at Colter Bay cabins) shuttle bus back and forth a few times a day from Colter Bay to Jackson Lake Lodge, Jenny Lake Visitor Center, Moose Visitor Center and into town. http://www.gtlc.com/activities/transportation-town.aspx Please note that if you go all the way into town, or even to the Moose Visitor Center on this shuttle and must come back through a ranger staffed entrance station, you will need to either have a park pass in your name or pay the daily rate to get into the park.

Most people on our trips who have used this free shuttle have only used it to get to Jackson Lake Lodge (swimming pool/restaurants/trail rides) and back or perhaps to the Jenny Lake area for a hike or for the return after a backpack so a driver does not have to plan their day around your return time and you can take your time coming back. Please carefully note exactly where you meet the bus and the latest return times from each location. For example, you will need to finish a hike in the vicinity of Jenny Lake Lodge to get to the bus by (2015) 7:40 p.m. or a hike in the vicinity of Jenny Lake Visitors Center by 7:30 p.m. for a return to Colter Bay at 8:20 p.m.

activities besides hikes, ranger walks/talks and visitor centers

In the fall the corral at Colter Bay sometimes closes before we are there, Jackson Lake Lodge is often open longer and you can take a horseback trail ride: 307 (543-3100) 2016 prices:

Short Ride (Approx. 1 hr) $43 at Colter Bay, $45.00/adult at Jackson Lake Lodge

Standard Ride (Approx. 2 hrs) $67 at Colter Bay, $75.00/adult at Jackson Lake Lodge

breakfast horseback ride $75 at Colter Bay, dinner $78 at Colter Bay

Riders must weight no more than 225 pounds and must wear closed toed shoes (long pants recommended). No backpacks, video cameras or binouclars allowed. Recommend you apply sunscreen and insect repellant PRIOR to the ride.

If you driver doesn’t want to go on a general sightseeing tour, doesn’t want to go to Yellowstone:

Scenic Park Bus Tour Rates 2015

Grand Teton four hour tour $67.00/adult

Yellowstone ten hour tour $103.00/adult (with a box lunch)

On many of our fall trips the ‘bay’ at Colter Bay has been a mud flat due to irrigation water being drained from Jackson Lake. If it is not:

Jackson Lake Cruises (2016)

Scenic Lake Cruise $31 /adult

Breakfast Cruise $45/adult

Lunch Cruise $44/adult

Dinner Cruise $65/adult

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TOTAL COST???

Since different people will have different budgets: drive or fly; some may camp, (but in fall they should expect regular rain, possible snow and cold overnight temperatures and well as warm sunny days), some may get a hotel room, some may get a cheap cabin, the trip cost will vary.

Grand Tetons trip cost has examples of

The cheap trip,

The not-so cheap trip,

The slightly more costly trip, but less driving time, also known as the I-can’t-get-much-time-off-work trip,

and The expensive trip.

For details about our next club trip to Grand Teton National Park, go to: Grand Tetons.

Grand Tetons trip pages index has brief descriptions of most of the pages about this trip.

Grand Tetons kayaking

Grand Tetons sightseeing